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There have been so many excellent posts about this already that it's kinda moot for me to write something up as well but I just kinda wanted to get my thoughts down. Wish they were deep meta thoughts but they're just regular Aislynn-shaped fangirl thoughts, sorry. ;)

Edited to add a few things I missed when I posted last night, sorry! *blush*

While I'm sorting out my jumble of feelings, let's look at things by character, shall we? ;) (All caps by me. ;) )

Ten

The Doctor basically begging through both parts of this to not die... that disturbed me, I've gotta say. :( Firstly because I don't remember ANY other incarnation of the Doctor feeling so strongly for that incarnation that he was outright terrified of changing. But then I thought about the extent he went to in "Journey's End" to keep from fully regenerating (and thus from changing to the next "him") and thought well, maybe that's just one of Ten's quirks, that he didn't want to stop being Ten. (It still goes against all of the "but I'm STILL the Doctor!" lines he gave Rose after he changed from Nine but hey, maybe that was easy to believe when HE was the new guy and a little harder to swallow when he was the incarnation that was about to get the boot! ;) How very... human of him, hm? ;) )

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That final "I don't want to go" said with that quiver in his voice definitely got to me (and made me feel rather like David was kinda putting quite a bit of himself in there as well, as in, "Holy crap, I'm really leaving DW. What am I doing? I could've done another series or two! Wait! Brake! Somebody throw on the brake, I don't wanna go!!!" :( ;) )! *massive sniffles* How could you not just want to give him the hugest *squish* in the universe after that???

I found the fact that he completely trashed the TARDIS console room on his way "out" to be odd to say the least! ;) Unless it was one last gesture he was making as Ten: he might be about to "die" and this "new man" was going to saunter away, but, by crikey, he wasn't going to just saunter away in HIS TARDIS, not without having to do some serious repair work on it first! ;)

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Seriously, does this not scream that it's a "Screw you, Next Incarnation!!!" sort of regeneration? o_O ;)

Donna

The fact that she didn't get even a SCENE with the Doctor, didn't apparently remember him, didn't get any sort of resolution with him... Dude, saying that that SUCKED is a serious understatement. But what truly flabbergasted me is the fact that Donna remembered, you know, that thing that the Doctor kept emphasizing must NEVER, NEVER HAPPEN BECAUSE HER HEAD WILL EXPLODE AND SHE'LL DIIIIIIIE... Well, technically, she'll just give off a ring of pretty regeneration-ish light that can knock out Storm Troopers Master clone dudes at 50 paces (hey, it just reminded me a bit of the Death Star exploding, what can I say? ;) ). And then... what? Did she remember? Does she still just have the "lock" on her memories in place and that was just some sort of safety valve release thing that let off the pressure and knocked her out before she made like the Death Star? *confuzzled face*

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The horizontal circle of energy that blasts out from her wasn't easy to catch in a cap, sorry. I noticed her line about her head getting hotter and hotter before the energy burst out of her sounded awfully reminiscent of BadWolf!Rose back at "Parting of the Ways" right before Nine took the Time Vortex energy out of her to save her life. Why exactly was it again that Ten couldn't do something similar? ;) (See the answer -- as determined by me ;) -- below.)

I like that he called her his best friend, of course, and I like the idea that he put something in place to try to make sure she'd be okay if something did trigger her memories but... when exactly did he do that? Was it supposed to be when he took her memories the first time? And if he could DO something like that, then why was there no way for him to "release" the rest of the Time Lord energy in her brain that was going to kill her at the end of JE? Why couldn't he have Death Starred ;) her head, releasing the energy to a safe level until he found a better way of preserving both her life AND her memory?

(The answer: because Catherine Tate was leaving the show so of course the Doctor COULDN'T save Donna in a manner that would've allowed her to stay with him. ;) )

Next, I'm sure that Shaun is a lovely fellow, he was written to appear (at least to me in his few scenes) to be a decent guy who loved her, was concerned about her, got along great with Wilf and Sylvia and all of that. But dude, I REALLY expected that if Donna got a "happy ending" (not of the Ten/Donna persuasion, which as much as I want I knew was never going to happen :( ) then why the frak wasn't it with Lee? What, then was the WHOLE POINT of him being real and almost but not quite being able to call out to her if we were just never frickin' gonna see him again and he was going to be of no importance to the rest of her story??? o_O

Martha and Mickey

Surprisingly, once I got past the "But what happened to TOM??? You know, the guy Martha was ENGAGED to???" knee-jerk reaction, I actually really liked them together like that! They both looked UTTERLY awesome (her hair! his scruffy beard! ♥♥♥!!!) and I love the idea of them being all freelance alien hunters out there saving the world whilst looking hawt in their black leather gear!

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I'd love to see the story of whatever happened to poor ol' Tom and how Martha and Mickey ended up falling in love and getting married! Sure we're probably never gonna get it in the show but somebody's gotta write that fic eventually, right? ;)

The Master

I've always had a fondness for Simm!Master no matter how frickin' crazy!evol he gets and there's nothing I love more than a bad guy who finally gets to redeem himself a bit. So I was all ZOMG!YAY! with both of their "Get out of the way"'s. I loved that we finally got the reason for the drums he's always heard, for his madness.

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So did he get sucked back in as Gallifrey got thwacked back into the Time Lock? Now he's condemned to that fate right along with the rest of the Time Lords, never to be seen again (unless somebody down the line needs a convenient "and even though they can never come back, here they are again, for one story line night only: the Time Lords of Gallifrey!" :P ;) ). Or did the Master use up all of his energy and we were supposed to think he had died (again ;) -- please see the above exception for the Time Lords and Gallifrey ;) )?

The Time Lords

And speaking of the Time Lords... I actually completely LOVED the idea that they were, in fact, evol! I thought that was a great twist on things that they weren't just collateral damage caught by accident as the Doctor defeated the Daleks to end the Time War. Dude, he was locking them away on purpose! *stunned face* It was a twist I definitely didn't see coming and yet it still fit in perfectly with Nine and Ten's survivor guilt and angst, in my opinion.

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By the way, I was glad when President Time Lord ;) started raising that gauntlet thing (which I'm sure is something Classic!Who that I just don't know the name of 'cause I'm sadly not well versed enough to know it; I at first thought it was the resurrection gauntlet thingie from Torchwood, lol! ;) ) with the fingers pointing down because the first time he raised it the other way, I honestly thought he was going to give everybody the finger! *gigglesnorts* :D

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Background Time Lord peeps: "We can't look, he's going to get us fined within an inch of our lives and DW thrown off the airwaves forever!!!" ;)

The Woman

Well, since I'd read multiple times that she was going to be the Doctor's mother, I kept waiting for him to say, "MOMMMMMMM!" at some point. I've read lots of interesting theories in the past few hours now, though: that she's Rose (hence the music sounded like Rose's theme every time we saw her), that she's Donna, that she's Susan. I really don't know who I believe she is but clearly she was somebody important to him. It's kind of annoying if we'll never know since we definitely have been given the impression that All Things Nine and Ten Are Not To Be Talked About Ever Again after this. :S (Well, other than a character that's been spotted in filming for series 5 with Eleven in some rather widely distributed spoilers for a while now. ;) )

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She does kinda seem to be a plausible "older Susan" to me...

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Sorry for the tiny pic, it was the best I could find with a quick image search. ;)

Rose

I think your shipper preferences here dictated your reaction to the fact that Rose was the last of his companions that he went to see. Myself, I've always shipped Nine/Rose and Ten/Donna but not so much Ten/Rose. Don't get me wrong, I love them both but I just don't love them together the way that I love him with Donna and her with Nine. That's just the way I'm wired. ;) That said, by the time that I got to this part and had dealt with the fact that Ten and Donna were NOT going to get the kind of heart-felt resolution that I so desperately would've liked to have seen, I didn't begrudge Rose this one last scene with him. Even though Ten/Rose isn't my primary ship, I DO believe that the Doctor did love her.

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But much more even than that is that I liked that this brought us back around to the beginning again. Nu!Who started with Rose (quite literally, she was the first character we saw and the first ep of the new series is named "Rose" after all). This brought us via the magic of time travel back to the start again, back to where even as Ten is leaving, we see that Rose's time with Nine is about to begin. And thus somewhere out there is also Donna, who will be getting her turn with Ten once again in a big wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey circle.

And so as Nine turns into Ten again and Ten once more eventually comes back to this final scene with Rose, it's all going to begin yet again. In this strange way, Rose and Nine always WILL be together, just like Ten and Donna will forever be out there somewhere in time and space, traveling together forever. That brought a little bit of peace to my achy fangirl heart. :)

Though don't get me wrong, I STILL wish that Ten's hand would've regenerated into Nine, who then went into Pete's world with Rose, while at the same time Ten would've also been cloned so that he and Donna could've also stayed together while proper!Ten was free to go off and regenerate into Eleven and thus continue on with the show in the tradition it's accustomed to for all of these many years. And I have every intention of still reading, vidding and writing (whenever the muses get with program again ;) ) Ten/Donna and Nine/Rose. My personal fanon will keep them all safely together forever and ever. *clutches them all to her heart* ♥!

Which just leaves us with...

Eleven

I admit it, it took me a long time to accept that my beloved Nine had turned into the bouncy stranger that was Ten. The bouncy stranger who came in seconds after my beloved Nine had DIED and proceeded to bounce all over the place, COMPLETELY IGNORING MY FANGIRL GRIEF HERE, YO! >:[ ;)

And so I think it's always a bit shocking to go from "heartbreaking farewell" to "O HAI, it's the new Doctor!" in the span of a few seconds. o_O ;)

That said, once I watched Eleven's scene, as brief as it is, I couldn't help but love him. (Full disclosure in case you didn't already know this ;) but Matt Smith reminds me SO much of a guy I went to high school with so I've been predisposed to *draw hearts around him* from day one. ;) )

He was all gawky discovery of his new self (I love how the Doctor takes inventory of his new parts, lol! ;) ) right in the middle of the crisis (left by Ten ;) ).

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He has hair! ;) (And he's not a girl, nor ginger. ;) And the way he said, "Still not ginger!" reminded me a great deal of Peter Davison/Five's manner of speaking for some reason. ;) )

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Something else important, ah yes... The TARDIS IS ON FIRE and is about to crash!!! O_O ;)

Am I glad that Ten is gone? No way! Am I sorry that David Tennant isn't going to be the Doctor anymore? Absolutely. My little fangirl heart will do a sort of *clench* for a long, lonnnng while every time I think about Ten and David's times being over. :( (Heck, I still do that when I think of Nine and Christopher Eccleston's times being over! ;) ) I would've loved more Ten (and Nine)!

But the basis of DW is that the actors and thus the Doctor will change. And as sad as I am to know that that time has come, I'm still ready to give Matt and Eleven every chance in the world to win me over. (Okay, so I'm pretty much won over already so I'm going to have to reallllly dislike something about Eleven once I see him in proper action for me to go "Ew!" at this point. ;) )

Because, see? This is my Doctor and my OTP and always will be:

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And so is this -- this is also my Doctor and my OTP and always will be:

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So I'm left feeling sad that Ten's era is over but at the same time his era is NEVER really over. Just like any of the previous Doctors, he'll still live through fannish things, fics and vids and graphics. Time travelers never really die, as the quote (that I'm mangling ;) ) goes so I just try to remember that ALL of the Doctors are still out there, from One now to Ten, having their awesome adventures, kept alive in the hearts of their fans. So if you're feeling sad that this day has come at last for Ten, maybe that will give you a little tiny bit of comfort before too long. It has me.

*hugs you all* Thanks for reading all of that, if you did so. Like I said, I just wanted to kinda get my thoughts down and try to sort out my feelings a bit. I know that so many of my flisters were just completely gutted by the end of this ep, for various reasons. I just wish I could give you all a big hug and somehow make it a little better! But all I can do is just give you my perspective on things, for what it's worth, and hope it helps a little. *hugs you again*

And now that I've drifted completely into Utter Sappiness by the end of this, I bid you all goodnight. Before you leave, please be sure to help yourself to a Dalek cookie (or three, I'll never tell, we're going through a difficult time here and cookies make everything better, it's a scientific fact!). ;) ♥!

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Final shout-outs because as soon as I went to bed last night I thought, D'OH, I CAN'T BELIEVE I FORGOT TO MENTION...

Wilf

Seriously, could he BE any more awesome? No, no, he really couldn't be. ;)



A genuine Millennium Falcon moment! Go, Wilf, GO!!!



When Wilf gets teary-eyed, you'd have to have a heart of stone to not want to *sob* with him, in my opinion. When he saluted the Doctor, I sniffled discreetly but when he blew him a kiss and you could just see in his eyes that he knew he was never going to see the Doctor again... Well, it was a three-tissue moment, how could it not be?




Even teh Doktor can't withstand the power of Wilf!hugs! It's okay, Doctor! Just hug him back, that's all ANYBODY could do!

Worst. Rescue. EVER



I had to laugh out loud at that, what can I say?


And just because...

...this post needs moar Donna. *nods* ;)


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I love that outfit, I really do! [/shallow] ;)

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I couldn't help but say, "Back of the neck!" ala Donna at the moment when the Doctor knocked out the Sontarran! Yes, I'm taking my Ten/Donna connections ANY WAY I can get them! ;)

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And I love that she opened her eyes when she heard the sound of the TARDIS materializing! Oh, if ONLY... *sniffles*

Lest you think that I'm just fine and dandy with Donna's ending here, no, I'm really not. But I fully expected that she was either going to die in some ultra tragic manner or she was going to lose her memories again (if she even got them back). I would've MUCH preferred that she got her memories back but, now having this new life with Shaun, made the decision to stay or at least have had her and the Doctor have a heart-to-heart about it in some way (though she would've NEVER let him go off and regenerate on his own, IMO). But it would've been nice for her to have been able to keep all of her memories, all of the things she learned while she was with him and then CHOOSE to end where we saw her end at.

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At least she looked happy, even if her time with the Doctor was made sort of moot. :( And hey, Wilf is happy!dancing so I supposed that's a tiny bit of consolation. ;) I just desperately wish that she and the Doctor would've had one last proper moment together before he was gone. It's really hard not to feel utterly cheated out of that. But again, I really was suspecting that RTD was going to pull a last "Hey, let's kill her off for realz, yo!" thing here so I was at least relived that that didn't happen on top of everything else. Donna killed or condemned into the Time Lock with Gallifrey would've been worse to me (though I can't help but love imagining her getting her hands on President Time Lord -- he DID call him Rassilon, didn't he? No way! ;) -- and whipping him into shape, lol! "Don't you be pointing that gauntlet at ME, Mr. High and Mighty 'Oooo, I'm the President of the Time Lords'!" *smacks him* :P ;) )

I'm trying to take my consolation wherever I can get it when it comes to all of this, what can I say? ;)

My apologies again for all of the add-ons. It was late last night when I decided to write this up and I accidentally left out a bunch of things. Thanks again for reading! *sets out a fresh batch of adorable Dalek cookies* Please, help yourself! ;) ♥!

Date: 2010-01-02 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katherine-b.livejournal.com
I can't say I blame you for those reactions, hun. And I very much agree with you about Ten/Donna and Nine/Rose. I also agree that there is still much to be made of the Ten era and we can enjoy it because of how much we loved him.

Ooh, cookies!

Date: 2010-01-04 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you so much, hon! I added a bit more at the end -- needed moar Donna pics, just for one thing! *nodnod* ♥! -- the next day (that's what I get for posting too late at night ;) ). It's still going to take a while for all of this to process, I suppose. :S

Anyway, thanks so much for reading it all over and commenting! And yay for cookies, they do make things at least a little better, it's been scientifically proven! ;) *hugs* ♥!

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Date: 2010-01-02 11:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetsyren.livejournal.com
You were much more eloquent than I was last night. I just struggled to get past the whole Donna betrayl.

In the light of a new day i've decided just to ignore it and have Ten and Donna keep travelling together in my mind and let Eleven be the Doctor in a parallel universe.

That said I shall miss Tennants Doctor a lot and i'm sad that his last story wasn't all that it could have been. He deserved better.

Date: 2010-01-05 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Thanks so much, hon! This is definitely something that kinda strikes everybody in their own way and I think we're all going through a ton of emotions with it! (At least I know that I still am. ;) )

Anyway, I guess I had already accepted the fact that the one ending I most wanted to see, the Doctor and Donna traveling together off into a happily ever after was just not going to happen except for how we fans make it happen, through fics and vids. So I've had my mind long set, since JE, that they're still off together on their fabulous adventures and everything else is just a parallel universe! ;) That just gives me a bit more peace over it all.

That's not to say that I'm still not completely hopping mad that they didn't get one scene together, nor that she got to have any sort of pro-active part at all! >:[ :( I do SO agree, Ten's last story (and Donna's) deserved to be so much better!

*hugs* Thanks for reading and commenting! (And I added a bit more at the end the next morning after I posted this because I realized that I had short-changed Donna by not giving her enough pics, no! :( So I added a few things I'd forgotten. ;) ) ♥!

Date: 2010-01-02 11:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphire-child.livejournal.com
I agree with so much of what you've said. Just...man. It was awesome.

Date: 2010-01-05 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Aw, thanks so much, hon! I'm really glad to hear that you felt the same about a bunch of things I mentioned! *hugs* I added a bit more that I'd forgotten to put in the night before, oops. *blush* That's what I get for posting last thing before bed, I suppose! ;) Thanks again! :D ♥!

Date: 2010-01-02 12:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adroidmortox247.livejournal.com
That's one of the beauties of the who fandom, no matter what happens on screen, you can find some way around it to continue to tell the stories you want to tell. I still can't make up my mind on End of time. Like yourself gutted with what happened (or rather what didn't) with Donna, but there were other moments I really liked (see my icon)

Date: 2010-01-05 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Oh, I LOVED that moment, I loved that I got the chance to "legitimately" cheer for the Master (instead of sort of covertly cheering whilst feeling a bit guilty, lol! ;) ).

The way they completely didn't use Donna at all was really such a letdown. :( But there were other moments I enjoyed. Like you said though, that's the beauty of fandom, there's always a way to continue on! \o/

Thanks bunches for reading and commenting! *hugs* ♥!

Date: 2010-01-02 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenpear.livejournal.com
Quite an involved look back on the last few years of Who.

Since I've gone through so many of these regenerations I just take it in stride and look forward to what's coming next.

In some ways I would have liked to have seen the Time Lords come back into the universe and how the Doctor would have had to deal with it. But not with them in their evil state. Oh well, guess it's the status (nu)quo...

Date: 2010-01-07 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
I have to admit that the Time Lords returning and the Doctor having to deal with them again was something I really expected was going to happen as the reins changed hands. Since both Nine and Ten being the last of their/his ;) kind (excepting the Master of course ;) ) was such an integral part of their characterization, I kinda figured that bringing the Time Lord's back and making Eleven a "not one of his kind" would be a fairly large dividing force between the Ninth/Tenth Doctors and the Eleventh.

However, I really didn't expect the evil!Time Lords twist at all and I was sitting here quite *jaw drop* when I realized it. So that turned out to be an interesting twist I definitely didn't see coming but that did still manage to fit with the continuity for Nine and Ten and their survival guilt in my opinion. So I was happy enough with that. ;)

My first regeneration was Four and Five's but at the time that it happened I guess I was losing interest in DW so it didn't have the impact that the Nu!Who regens have had on me. ;) (Back in the day I was actually FAR more annoyed that, when Leela opted to not go on with Four, that he just sorta went, "Eh, okay then..." and left, lol! I thought he should've made some sort of declaration of "No, you can't! I neeeeeeeed yooooooooou!" or something! *gigglesnorts* Even as a wee li'l Whovian I was clearly a sappy shipper! ;) )

Anyway, thank you kindly for reading through all of my silly fangirly thoughts and for commenting! :D ♥!
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Date: 2010-01-07 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you so much! And I definitely understand the need to vid after EoT, I'm doing some vid therapy myself right now! ;)

As much as I did come to love Ten, I agree, I still miss Nine like mad (it took me so long to finally watch s2, every time I'd try, I'd run back and watch s1 over again because I just wasn't ready to let go of him yet! ;) ).

But I suppose in a way that sorta prepared me for this regen, my fangirl heart has learned how to put Nine, Ten and Eleven all in separate little compartments that don't compete with each other, so I'm free to love all of them and ship them however I please and they're all just off in their own little universes, traveling happily onward instead of occurring consecutively. ;) It might not be entirely logical but at least it helps me not be even more upset when the regens happen! ;)

Anyway, thanks again for reading through all of this and for your kind words! *hugs* ♥!

Date: 2010-01-02 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] time-converges.livejournal.com
Yeah, the defence mechanism doesn't make much sense, but that doesn't mean it won't figure into a fixit or two for me. :)

And I figured him exploding the TARDIS was a side effect of the radiation he absorbed or something? And not just their excuse for building the fancy new HD compatible set, no, not at all. ;)

Donna and Ten will always be my OTP, and that'll continue in fic for as long as the muse cooperates with me. I was just so disappointed that they wasted Catherine in the last ep - it could have been wonderful!

*hugs and cookies*

Date: 2010-01-02 08:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sykira
yeah, i too think the extra essplody regeneration was due to the radiation

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Date: 2010-01-02 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amyo67.livejournal.com
I have to say I pretty much agree with you, except on the Ten/Donna front, but then you knew that already. But I already love Eleven after his first minute or two. I am sad that David's time is over, but I respect his decision to move on. And as you pointed out that is what keeps DW going, every so often the show renews itself when a Doctor does.
I feel for Matt having to step in on the heels of one of the most popular Doctors ever. I wish him well and much luck and am looking forward to seeing what new adventures he gets into.

*hugs you and 1-10 and sends cookies*

Date: 2010-01-07 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Aw, thanks so much for taking time to read all of that and comment, hon! ♥!

I feel for Matt having to step in on the heels of one of the most popular Doctors ever. I wish him well and much luck and am looking forward to seeing what new adventures he gets into.

Man, I so agree with that! I think it must've been hard on David to follow behind Chris as well. It'll be really great to see Matt settle in and really get to develop his own version of the Doctor!

Yay, hugs and cookies, my favorite! *hugs back and shares cookies with you* Thanks again! :D ♥!

Date: 2010-01-02 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jemmalynette.livejournal.com
I watched this :D I liked reading your review and I agree with a lot of what you said, even though I was confused about some of the ep, lol.

I really liked the Doctor's "rewards" and it was sweet when he referred to Donna as his best friend :D

Sorry about Ten, but I hope Eleven will give you as much happiness and laughs as Ten did :D

Date: 2010-01-07 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Aw, thanks, hon! I'm glad you got the chance to watch the ep, though it can be totally confusing depending on whether you saw s4 and the specials that have come between then and now. Oh, and s3 for the other stuff with the Master. And probably s1 and 2 just to be sure... o_O ;)

I'm definitely sorry to see Ten go, just like I was with Nine, but now that the time has come, I'm planning on enjoying Eleven now that it's his turn! :D

Thanks again! *many hugs* ♥!

Date: 2010-01-02 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] da-buffster.livejournal.com
A new theory for The Woman - I thought she was meant to be Romana. Now, I know NOTHING of Romana, only that she was a Time Lady and as far as I'm aware, Good. It seemed to make sense!

Date: 2010-01-07 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Oh, that would also make total sense for that to have been Romana! I only caught a bit of them with Four (there were two incarnations of Romana aka actresses ;) ) but I remember really enjoying them both! I liked the Doctor having a Time Lady who was spunky in her own right, probably that was the inkling of what I'd come to love in Donna all these years later, that way she could hold her own with him! ;)

Thanks so much for reading all of that and taking time to comment! :D *hugs* ♥!

Date: 2010-01-02 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loves-glamour.livejournal.com
I love posts with visuals hee :) Yea I agree with alot of this and about the Ten/Donna which is my OTP forever amen and Nine/Rose too. And poor Donna was screwed over big time in my opinion :( Whatever RTD, bb girl Donna and I are currently having cocktails on the lawn in the middle of winter so ha! lolol

LOL at the lonesome angel among Daleks :D

Date: 2010-01-07 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
I started to just write this up without any caps or anything ('cause I thought it would be fairly small, lol! ;) ) and then stopped part way through because I thought it would be much more fun with some pics! :D I'm so glad you liked them! ;)

Oh, I tell you, poor Donna indeed! I really couldn't believe that they brought her back just to give her so very little to do and NO real part in at all in the plot! Why couldn't she have had something awesome to do? And why in the world couldn't we have at least had ONE SCENE with her and Ten? That just boggled my mind that they didn't even get a proper goodbye. :(

Whatever RTD, bb girl Donna and I are currently having cocktails on the lawn in the middle of winter so ha! lolol

Woo, I LOVE that! That's one cocktail party I definitely hope I'm invited to! ;)

And hee, that one little angel amongst the Daleks was just too cute, IMO! ;)

Thanks for reading all of that and commenting! *hugs* ♥!

Date: 2010-01-02 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jellyfrog.livejournal.com
Posting with my eyes covered!!!! Haven't seen it yet (but I'm already teary)!!! Just wanted to say ITUNES BETTER GET IT ON THERE QUICK!

Date: 2010-01-07 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
*covers your eyes as well* Poor thing, me and my never-ending spoilery post thingies! :( Hope you've had the chance to see it by now! *fingers crossed* ♥♥♥!!!

Date: 2010-01-03 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hp-chloe.livejournal.com
I love everything you said...awesome. And such beautiful caps to accompany it. ^^ ♥ Nine/Rose and Ten/Donna will be my OTPs forever too...I'm just wondering whether to add Eleven/Amy- hee. :D I'm really looking forward to Matt & the new series, I can't wait, but I will so miss Ten, just like I missed Nine.

Date: 2010-01-08 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Hee, I love that icon! I don't think it's going to take much convincing to get me to shipping Eleven/Amy, I'm most of the way there already and we haven't even seen their first ep, lol! ;)

Anyway, thanks bunches, I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for reading and commenting! :D *hugs* ♥!

Date: 2010-01-03 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dazzlebug.livejournal.com
I cried so damn much at this episode. I've loved the Master too--he's just such a deliciously rich and faceted character. He really fascinates me, and John Simm just did such an incredible job of portraying him. That said, seeing him in a dress did wonders for my sides. Still stitching them back together ;)

I will miss Ten with all of my heart and soul. I feel that he's the Doctor of my generation (not in terms of age, as Matt Smith is much closer to my age), and I really have loved him. He just seemed so broken in these past two episodes (I couldn't understand why to begin with; perhaps something I'm missing from having not yet seen the Waters of Mars episode) that it was almost painful to watch. I spent the entire last half hour of this episode crying. As I do at every damn season finale of this show /o\

I'm very much looking forward to seeing Matt Smith's portrayal. I very much agree with you--I already love him! He already seems so bouncy and fun :D And I LOVE that Ten wrecked the TARDIS to give Eleven something to deal with, haha! Looking forward to new episodes with him :)

Date: 2010-01-08 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Kaaaaaaaylaaaaaa! *tackleglomps you* Ummm, hi! *blush* :D

Yes, you're definitely missing a large piece of the puzzle as to what Ten was talking about that made him so broken in EoT. When/if you see Waters of Mars you'll most certainly understand. :(

I will truly always miss Ten and David (I still haven't quite accepted that we won't be getting anymore of his video diaries for the next series or things like that :( ) but I'm looking forward to seeing how Matt is going to take the role and make it his own.

I wouldn't have chosen for Ten to go just yet (heck, I wouldn't have chosen for Nine to go yet! ;) Can't we just somehow have several incarnations filming shows all at the same time so every fangirl/boy can have new eps with the Doctors they love? ;) ) but since it was David's decision to move on, all I can do know is wish him well, still keep reading, writing, watching and vidding Ten, keep watching his eps over and just basically keep loving his Doctor while making room in my heart for Eleven.

Anyway, thank you so much for reading all of that and leaving me your thoughts as well (and for letting me *tackleglomp* you right as you came in the door like a big, overgrown, floppy-eared dog, lol! ;) ). ♥♥♥!!!

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Date: 2010-01-03 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] supasass.livejournal.com
Who wrote that quote? It's made me feel so much better. This post has made me feel so much better.

Re: Time travellers never die

Date: 2010-01-08 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
It's the title of a novella (and now apparently a novel) by Jack McDevitt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_McDevitt). I read the novella back in 1996 and that title has always stuck with me (even when I couldn't remember if it was a title or a quote from something, oops! ;) ).

Anyway, I'm so glad to hear that it made you feel better! That's what I was really, really hoping for! Hearing you say that just really made my day, thank you so much! *hugs* ♥♥♥!!!

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Date: 2010-01-03 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catvampcrazines.livejournal.com
Oh darling, this recap/reaction post is *amazing*. I pretty much strongly feel the same with everything, I'm just really not as good at expressing it other than "Owie" and "sob" and "FTW" along with some of my other sometimes-poor word choices. ;) Okay, maybe that is somewhat an exaggeration...

I kind of want the Easter special and season to start sooner because I want a better grasp on Eleven and know more about his personality. I don't have quick easing into the next season like I did with Nine to Ten. *pouts* I'm not anti-Eleven, but I'm waiting to see more of him. I agree with your descrips and add on that I kinda felt like he had the personality like a startled funny old man in the young body--which is actually pretty literal, actually. Considering the bowtie (I think) that's in his actual costume, it's not too surprising a touch. ;)


For me, I kept on thinking that older woman was his wife... unless I'm being unknowledgeable and he saw her die in the earlier series. Wilf asked who she was and he looked at Donna, but I think he was focusing on the bride/wedding dress aspect.

Btw, loved her casual outfit, did *not* like that wedding dress. Her dress from The Runaway Bride was much prettier. [iz shallow too]


Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, hun. This really has unwound my stomach some. And you are very right, our ships and favorite Doctor incarnations live on in our hearts and through the stories we tell, the art we create. <3 Writing tonight definitely helped sooth me.

I suppose there was also a tiny fear in my head since I heard about DT going over how fandoms and that *urge* to create and etc sometimes fade after a few years, but I think it's good to just live in this moment. Plus, lol, DW is definitely a fandom that can survive... and so can it's pairings.


Annnnyways, thank you again for the very warming and sweet post!

I'll be snagging some cookies, and to hell with hugs *whovians gasping everywhere* I'm going in for snuggles! *giant sigh of relief, though they may still demand hugs*

Maybe I'll marathon from Nine on until we get our new season? Heh. Your 'thoughtful' Rose mood is tempting me.


Btw, love you!
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Date: 2010-01-08 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you so much for that awesome and thoughtful reply! \o/

I hear you, I'm really eager to see Eleven in action now, to really see how he's going to handle things. And the shipper in me is raring to start shipping Eleven/Amy but I'm trying to at least hold off until I've seen them in an ep, lol! ;)

And oy, I definitely loved her Runaway Bride dress and hair so much better than her EoT outfit. :( This look seemed a little too severe or something for her (in my decidedly unfashion-conscious opinion, lol ;) ). Not to get me wrong, I'd *heart* Donna if she was wearing a sack but I always want them to give her the best, most prettiest clothes out there and I wasn't too crazy about this look they gave her. :S

Ooo, a Nine marathon, what a great idea! I'm always looking for an excuse to go back and watch more Nine! ;)

I'll be snagging some cookies, and to hell with hugs *whovians gasping everywhere* I'm going in for snuggles! *giant sigh of relief, though they may still demand hugs*

*gasp* No hugs? Wait, we have snuggles instead, people! Everything's okay, it's huggle snuggle time! \o/ (I tell you, I think pretty much all Whovians have been in need of some serious huggle!snuggling of late! ;) *nodnod* )

Thanks again for this fabulous reply! *sends you more huggle snuggles and lots of love!* ♥!

Date: 2010-01-03 12:54 pm (UTC)
talkingtothesky: (sarahjanerose)
From: [personal profile] talkingtothesky
Oh, this post just made me feel so much better. ♥ Thanks very much for writing it! :D *mems*

Date: 2010-01-08 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Aw, thank you SO much for the kind words and the memming! I'm so glad that my fangirly thoughts helped a bit! :D *hugs* ♥!

Date: 2010-01-03 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tardis-stowaway.livejournal.com
*random stranger wanders in via [livejournal.com profile] who_daily *

Excellent reaction post! I agree with so much of what you said, especially the frustration of Donna's ending. I agreee 150% with the wish that, if she had to stay on Earth, it could have been by her choice. Also, so much word about the suggestion of having Lee instead of some random we've just met. They could have avoided the engagement plotline early on, then when Ten was doing his goodbyes he could have tracked down Lee and said something like, "O HAI! How would you like to come to the 21st century to meet the ginger awesome woman from your dreamworld in the Library? She doesn't remember you, but she's still brilliant!" And Lee would have come along, and there would have been much rejoicing.

Seriously, does this not scream that it's a "Screw you, Next Incarnation!!!" sort of regeneration? o_O ;)

HA! Indeed.

So I'm left feeling sad that Ten's era is over but at the same time his era is NEVER really over. Just like any of the previous Doctors, he'll still live through fannish things, fics and vids and graphics. Time travelers never really die, as the quote (that I'm mangling ;) ) goes so I just try to remember that ALL of the Doctors are still out there, from One now to Ten, having their awesome adventures, kept alive in the hearts of their fans.

Aww, I really like this thought. The beauty of a show about time travel is that you can always find a way to see a beloved character again (David has said that he would do a multiple Doctor show if asked), and the community of fans really is great for keeping the love alive.

Date: 2010-01-08 09:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Well, hi there, random stranger! ;) (Though I should admit I've always liked your username so I recognize you from out and about in fandom, so not a total stranger. ;) ) Thank you so much for stopping by and reading all my fangirly thoughts! :D

hey could have avoided the engagement plotline early on, then when Ten was doing his goodbyes he could have tracked down Lee and said something like, "O HAI! How would you like to come to the 21st century to meet the ginger awesome woman from your dreamworld in the Library? She doesn't remember you, but she's still brilliant!" And Lee would have come along, and there would have been much rejoicing.

Exactly! I have to admit, them NOT bringing Lee in again was something that really flabbergasted me. What in the world was the point of all that she went through if not to be a set-up so that when she was left behind when the Doctor moved on (as circumstances dictated she would have to be in one way or another), then we would at least feel like she was left in familiar hands? :S Like I said, I'm sure that Shaun was a lovely fellow but I'd already seen her being happy with Lee and their family so I would've automatically felt a little relieved sigh of "Well, at least I know she'll be happy with Lee (again)."

I'm glad to know I'm definitely not the only one who felt that way! ;)

Oh, that would definitely be wonderful to see David again in a multiple Doctor show! It's great that Classic!Who already has a few multiple Doctors shows under its belt so perhaps Nu!Who would feel like they definitely were free to give it a try themselves!

Thanks again so much for stopping by and for commenting! *offers you a fresh Dalek cookie* ;) ♥!

Date: 2010-01-08 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ovariesofsteel.livejournal.com
I can't lie. I didn't read a word of this or look at the pics, b/c I am not familiar with the series. But I AM familiar with your passion for it and it makes me happy :)

Date: 2010-01-08 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Aw, thanks, hon! I don't write deep meta-ish reaction posts but one thing I definitely have is a ton of love for this fandom and I'm glad it comes across! :D *squishes you* ♥♥♥!!!

Date: 2010-01-11 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chewysun.livejournal.com
well, hallo :) it's been a while since I've been back to Who fandom, but after EOT miraculously was broadcast up here in Canada, I couldn't help myself with falling right back in where I left off. ACK, I positively killed myself when Wilf just HAD to go in and get that guy out of the radiation room thingy (memory is failing me at the moment), and how it set off the completion of the prophecy.

Ten's subsequent actions, with visiting all of his companions, making sure they were all safe, and taken care of, it really.... really made me wibble. Right at the end, his "But I don't want to go-" sparked something that actually spurred me to start writing my first ever DW fic, and I'm so excited - except every new sentence keeps cementing the fact that Ten's run is over for the show. That makes me sad, but I wholly agree with what you said about us being able to find ways to let our favourite incarnations live on.

Sidenote: isn't the gauntlet the missing match for the Resurrection Gauntlet? I didn't realize it 'til the end, but that's what I think it is ;p It would be QUITE awesome if it was, because then it further ties Torchwood in with the show. Tehe.

Anywho, I know I'm a little late for commenting, but as I said I'm getting right back into the fold lol

:)

Chewy

Date: 2010-01-14 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Why, hi there, stranger! :D I'd wondered where you'd gotten off to! ;) Glad to see you back about LJ and the Whoniverse! ;)

Anyway, thanks so much for reading and commenting on this (and it's never too late, in my opinion! ;) ).

Sidenote: isn't the gauntlet the missing match for the Resurrection Gauntlet?

That was the first thing I wondered when I saw that gauntlet, it certainly LOOKS like it to me!

Yay for being inspired to write your first DW fic! *clappy hands* That's great news! :D

Thanks once more for responding and hope to see you around these LJ parts again soon! :D *hugs* ♥!

Date: 2010-01-11 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chewysun.livejournal.com
OH - also. "Worst. Rescue. EVAR." made me laugh and fall apart to bits as well. LOL

Cheers,
Chewy

Date: 2010-01-14 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Oh, I hear you! I couldn't help but just literally laugh out loud at that part but at the same knowing what was going to be coming by the end, I wibbled a bit as well! ;) ♥!

Date: 2014-04-21 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dieastra.livejournal.com
Sorry for intruding all over your journal, but I had to comment on this:

I admit it, it took me a long time to accept that my beloved Nine had turned into the bouncy stranger that was Ten. The bouncy stranger who came in seconds after my beloved Nine had DIED and proceeded to bounce all over the place, COMPLETELY IGNORING MY FANGIRL GRIEF HERE, YO! >:[ ;)

"proceeded to bounce all over the place" LOL well said! Because this is exactly how I felt. A friend introduced me to the NewWho by British DVDs and I loved that the guy was not one of the super good looking guys, and I loved mostly his eyes and the deep sadness that seemed to be in him. And I had no idea back then about the whole regeneration thing so really was shocked when the new guy came.

It didn't help that they actually stopped airing it in German TV after the second season and I fell out of the fandom until Torchwood came along years later which sucked me back in (seriosly though, why did nobody tell me that Captain Jack Harkness also sings?)

So, while I hesitantly came back to the fandom, I still did not get why everyone was so wild for Ten. And Tennant. In fact, I only started to love him once I had seen him as himself in interviews, and in many other different roles in movies. But the turning point for me actually was the episode where he was NOT the Doctor but that lovely English gentleman John Smith. Gone was all the bouncyness, and gone was my resistance as well! (although I still actually blame the big high resolution flat screen TV of my friend for it LOL)

When Matt Smith came around, I thought I never would buy an action figure of the Eleventh Doctor - well, that didn't last long. I have learnt my lesson now and am looking forward to the new Doctor - especially since I really loved Peter Capaldi in CoE - and I accept that each actor brings something different to the role and something new and exciting and therefore it never will get boring.

Date: 2014-04-24 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com
Oh, absolutely no apologies required! :D I'm really glad that you've found some interesting things in my entries! Thank you for taking time to comment, I really appreciate it! :D

Wow, looking this entry over again brought back a lot of memories! By the time Ten's era was over, I loved him SO much but that wasn't how I started, sad to say. I fell so in love with Nine for so many of the reasons you mentioned and I actually watched his series over about 3 full times before I could make myself watch s2 with Ten. *blush* And I still didn't warm up to Ten all through s2 and 3, it wasn't until s4 with Donna that my feelings changed and then once I did fall in love with him, I went back and watched s2/3 again and enjoyed them a lot more.

Oh, the lovely Captain Jack is just fantastic, isn't he? :D My mom never really has been that much into sci-fi but she's watched all of Jack's Doctor Who eps, just for him, lol! ;) And of course we had to get his CDs as well. :D

I still can hardly believe that Eleven is gone now, it just doesn't seem like he was here that long! But I'm looking forward to Twelve as well (and I'll no doubt have to get his figure as soon as it's available!). :D Bringing in new actors definitely does keep a freshness to the show that prevents it from becoming boring, that's so true! :D

Thanks again for commenting; I especially love hearing how people ended up getting into a show! :D ♥♥♥

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