(Hey, you volunteering to beta for me? You know you have to get you an Official Beta Hat if you do that... ♥! ;) )
...well I most certainly wouldn't be opposed and hey...your Beta Hats are AWESOME, so I'm not sure I'd go down THAT road, because I could never compare, but I could definitely think of SOMETHING ;) Although, I'm not gonna lie...the idea of a vidder as new and rough around the edges as myself giving a vidder as amazingly creative and talented as you a beta watch...is a liiiiiittle bit laughable ;) BUT, if you think I've got enough expertise to give it a go, believe me, I'd be honored!
Duuuuuude! Does that mean you cut all your clips FIRST? *mind boggles* WOW, that's extremely impressive! *golf claps* :D
I didn't USED to. Kayla turned me on to it, actually and I did it with Hit The Floor. On that note, though, I DID have to delete some and go back to put new ones in when some things didn't fit. THAT goes unsaid. If you cut something that you think will work and then see that it won't, clearly you have to go back and find one that does, but OTHER than that instance, trust me...if you outline the song lyric for lyric or beat for beat or whatever it is you're seeing in your head...cut the clips via that outline FIRST and put them up on the timeline. Do your magic and if something's missing or something doesn't fit, go back and fix it. Just don't put a few clips in, then go back and cut more, and put those in and go get more, because that's how you end up agonizing over a three second hunk of song, you know? I managed to finish Hit the Floor as the second fastest vid in the history of moi, and it doesn't suck a LOT, so...that's saying something ;)
I'm telling you...try it sometime, even if just for a thirty second random vidlet just to give the technique a shot...it made things SO much easier for me! And look how fast Kayla punches out all those amazing vids! That Eko and Shannon AU...she did that in a day and a half. Seriously. Is that nuts or what?!
If I know a few clips that I'm going to use for certain scenes, I go ahead and roughly plug them in on the timeline and vid up to them
I do that, too. I actually do that before I cut any of the rest of the clips in the outline, because if there are scenes that I see clearly in my head, I need to do them first before I forget how I want them to look. Meg falling from the building and the bit with the little girl from Provinence in Hit the Floor were times that I had scenes in my head and put them in the timeline right away so I wouldnt' forget them. I just went back and tweaked them with color and and exact beat use later. They were really rough, but the idea was there just so I wouldnt' forget. I didn't get anal with them and I only spent about an hour on each scene, JUST TO BLOCK IT OUT to remind myself. Don't fuss with them until you actually GET to them in the timeline, you know? It slows you down a lot if you do and can frustrate you in the process.
So yeah, I vid totally by blind feel, moving forward one clip at a time, having to stop and keep testing to see how the story "feels" while it's in this building process. Then I have to mull over where I want the story to go, so to decide what sort of clip will support that.
The only thing wrong with this is that it's EXACTLY the thing that's making you so miserable when you're vidding. Maybe what you should do is either outline lyrically and make notes of beat use you want to utilize (this is how I do it) or do a very ROUGH out together without effects (unless there's a specific transition you're needing...skip the cookie cutters; picture them in your head until you actually get to them on the timeline--I did that with the beat use at the end of Hit the Floor. All of my really rough version of HtF were just the background clip and I'd just dart my eyes across the clip to where I wanted those cookie cutters to be later).
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Date: 2007-04-16 04:23 am (UTC)...well I most certainly wouldn't be opposed and hey...your Beta Hats are AWESOME, so I'm not sure I'd go down THAT road, because I could never compare, but I could definitely think of SOMETHING ;) Although, I'm not gonna lie...the idea of a vidder as new and rough around the edges as myself giving a vidder as amazingly creative and talented as you a beta watch...is a liiiiiittle bit laughable ;) BUT, if you think I've got enough expertise to give it a go, believe me, I'd be honored!
Duuuuuude! Does that mean you cut all your clips FIRST? *mind boggles* WOW, that's extremely impressive! *golf claps* :D
I didn't USED to. Kayla turned me on to it, actually and I did it with Hit The Floor. On that note, though, I DID have to delete some and go back to put new ones in when some things didn't fit. THAT goes unsaid. If you cut something that you think will work and then see that it won't, clearly you have to go back and find one that does, but OTHER than that instance, trust me...if you outline the song lyric for lyric or beat for beat or whatever it is you're seeing in your head...cut the clips via that outline FIRST and put them up on the timeline. Do your magic and if something's missing or something doesn't fit, go back and fix it. Just don't put a few clips in, then go back and cut more, and put those in and go get more, because that's how you end up agonizing over a three second hunk of song, you know? I managed to finish Hit the Floor as the second fastest vid in the history of moi, and it doesn't suck a LOT, so...that's saying something ;)
I'm telling you...try it sometime, even if just for a thirty second random vidlet just to give the technique a shot...it made things SO much easier for me! And look how fast Kayla punches out all those amazing vids! That Eko and Shannon AU...she did that in a day and a half. Seriously. Is that nuts or what?!
If I know a few clips that I'm going to use for certain scenes, I go ahead and roughly plug them in on the timeline and vid up to them
I do that, too. I actually do that before I cut any of the rest of the clips in the outline, because if there are scenes that I see clearly in my head, I need to do them first before I forget how I want them to look. Meg falling from the building and the bit with the little girl from Provinence in Hit the Floor were times that I had scenes in my head and put them in the timeline right away so I wouldnt' forget them. I just went back and tweaked them with color and and exact beat use later. They were really rough, but the idea was there just so I wouldnt' forget. I didn't get anal with them and I only spent about an hour on each scene, JUST TO BLOCK IT OUT to remind myself. Don't fuss with them until you actually GET to them in the timeline, you know? It slows you down a lot if you do and can frustrate you in the process.
So yeah, I vid totally by blind feel, moving forward one clip at a time, having to stop and keep testing to see how the story "feels" while it's in this building process. Then I have to mull over where I want the story to go, so to decide what sort of clip will support that.
The only thing wrong with this is that it's EXACTLY the thing that's making you so miserable when you're vidding. Maybe what you should do is either outline lyrically and make notes of beat use you want to utilize (this is how I do it) or do a very ROUGH out together without effects (unless there's a specific transition you're needing...skip the cookie cutters; picture them in your head until you actually get to them on the timeline--I did that with the beat use at the end of Hit the Floor. All of my really rough version of HtF were just the background clip and I'd just dart my eyes across the clip to where I wanted those cookie cutters to be later).